205 FXUS66 KMTR 180457 AFDMTRArea Forecast Discussion National Weather Service San Francisco CA 957 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025
...New AVIATION, MARINE...
.KEY MESSAGES... Updated at 232 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025
- Showers with isolated to scattered thunderstorms as early as late tonight through Friday
- Cooler afternoon temperatures through late week
- Slight warm up for the weekend
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.UPDATE... Issued at 813 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025
Quick update on conditions this evening. Current radar shows a fairly persistent line of showers moving up the coast. Thus far, nearly all observed lightning in our region have been over the coastal waters. As these showers move northward tonight, they are moving into an increasingly stable environment. Therefore, we expect them to behave as we go into the nighttime hours. Overall thinking is in line with the current forecast. No major changes needed. However, one thing of note is that we are seeing some wildly different run-to-run solutions among hi-res models. Timing largely remains unchanged, but confidence has decreased in thunderstorm placement and coverage Thursday afternoon/evening. Through this evening shift, hourly updating hi-res models have gradually shifted the center of circulation (of remnant Mario) to the east. We`ll need to reassess what this means for us through the night. Especially since this eastward shift appears to show a bias with where the models are initializing the center of the low (the observed position is further west than the models think it is when they started their run). We should have a much better idea of what our afternoon will look like by tomorrow morning.
Behringer
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.SHORT TERM... Issued at 232 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025 (This evening through Thursday)
Upper level moisture is starting to spread across the Central Coast this afternoon as remnants of Mario has arrived. There have been showers and isolated thunderstorms south of the region earlier this morning and rain showers along and off of the Big Sur coast early this afternoon. Tonight into Thursday morning the potential increases for isolated to scattered rain showers and isolated thunderstorms as deeper moisture moves northward from the south. Precipitable water values are forecast to reach from 1.00"-1.40" across just about all of the region as we head into Thursday morning. Thus, the potential for dry lightning almost ends entirely! However, MUCAPE and lapse rates do increase through the day Thursday suggesting the threat for embedded thunderstorms remain. CAMS (convective-allowing models) also supports this.
From previous forecaster: "Any thunderstorm activity early Thursday morning is expected to remain mostly offshore, but things get more interesting by late morning into Thursday afternoon as the environment becomes more favorable for scattered thunderstorms to develop across the Central Coast into the South Bay. Given the near record PWATs, MUCAPE values between 200-400 J/kg, moderate PVA, and bulk shear up to 30kts by early Thursday afternoon, a few strong thunderstorms can`t be ruled out especially along the Santa Lucia and the Big Sur Coastline where terrain could also enhance lift at times near the surface. The primary concern would be strong wind gusts up to 50 MPH, cloud-to-ground lightning and brief downpours given the high PWATs through early Thursday evening."
Afternoon temperatures on Thursday will cool to near or slightly below seasonal averages as a result of the increased cloud cover and the approaching trough.
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.LONG TERM... Issued at 232 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025 (Thursday night through next Tuesday)
Isolated to scattered rain showers will linger into Friday late afternoon or early evening before the deeper moisture shifts eastward in response to an upper level trough approaching the coast. Saturday will remain slightly below seasonal averages as far as temperatures go. Temperatures warm by Sunday and Monday to above average as a weak ridge of high pressure builds in from the east.
Unsettled weather returns by Monday night and will continue into Tuesday as another round of tropical moisture advects northward. Chances generally remain below 30%, but be sure to check back for the latest forecast information.
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.AVIATION... (06Z TAFS) Issued at 957 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025
Main difference from 00Z TAFs was to adjust rain chances (decreasing them) for airports across the Bay Area and shift higher potential for rain showers further south over the Central Coast. Still some uncertainty as to where showers and thunderstorms will set up tomorrow so this is likely to be further refined in future TAF issuances. Continuing to lean towards tropical moisture and showers disrupting the marine layer tonight which will keep VFR conditions at interior sites. For HAF, MRY, and SNS - delayed the arrival of IFR conditions until later tonight which aligns better with GFSLAMP probabilistic guidance. Confidence remains on the lower side that IFR CIGs will develop along the coast given the disruptions to the marine layer from showers and tropical moisture. Elevated potential for thunderstorms tomorrow continues with MRY and SNS the two most likely to see thunderstorm activity. Winds look to pick up early tomorrow morning and will remain breezy through the afternoon/evening hours.
Vicinity of SFO...VFR through TAF period. Model guidance remains more bullish as to the inland extent of IFR-MVFR stratus overnight and shows some potential for CIGs between 12-16Z at SFO. Confidence is low in that scenario with current thinking leaning towards overcast high clouds and potentially a few low level clouds developing early Thursday morning. Guidance has backed off on showers in the vicinity of SFO early Thursday morning but remain elevated during the afternoon and evening hours. Low confidence that a thunderstorm will develop in the vicinity of SFO or directly impact the airport.
SFO Bridge Approach...Similar to SFO.
Monterey Bay Terminals...Showers remain in the vicinity of MRY and are expected to continue overnight. Showers will become more widespread across the Central Coast by Thursday morning and continue into the evening. Guidance suggests some potential for training thunderstorms in the vicnity of MRY and SNS to begin late Thursday evening and continue through early Friday morning. Model guidance has not been consistent as to where these training thunderstorms will set up so confidence is low to moderate in this outcome. Adjusted the arrival of IFR CIGs tonight back by a few hours at MRY and SNS with low to moderate confidence in timing of stratus return.
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.MARINE... (Tonight through next Tuesday) Issued at 957 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025
Strong northerly winds continue over the outer waters through Thursday before decreasing Friday into the weekend. Occasional gale force gusts and rough seas between 10 to 14 feet are expected over the far northern outer waters through early Friday. Isolated thunderstorms and showers continue over the southern waters through early Friday morning with storms to spread north Thursday afternoon. Mariners who encounter thunderstorms are likely to experience gusty outflow winds, locally rough seas, and locally heavy rainfall.
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.FIRE WEATHER... Issued at 813 PM PDT Wed Sep 17 2025
Threat for dry lightning is diminishing as deeper tropical moisture moves in from the south. Thunderstorm chances are uncertain Thursday afternoon across the Central Coast. Thunderstorms that form over the Santa Lucia may experience dry air entrainment due to strong offshore winds off the Gabilan Range. Deep moisture will still be in place, so this isn`t a typical "offshore wind event", but may be just enough to snub much of the thunderstorm activity across the Central Coast. However, this is all dependent on the track of the low and if it shifts eastward. For the rest of the region, isolated thunderstorm activity will spread northward through Thursday night into Friday morning. Even though most thunderstorm cores will produce wetting rain, there is always the chance of a stray strike or two outside of the main core, in addition to gusty and erratic winds.
Behringer
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.MTR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...None. PZ...Small Craft Advisory until 3 PM PDT Thursday for Pt Arena to Pt Reyes 10-60 NM.
Small Craft Advisory until 9 AM PDT Thursday for Pigeon Pt to Pt Pinos 10-60 NM.
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SHORT TERM...RGass LONG TERM....RGass AVIATION...Kennedy MARINE...Kennedy
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